Student Rights

Do you feel our rights as Christians are often violated and if so ultimately who’s responsible for this attack?

Does the ACLU abuse or take away Christian rights?

How can we change or improve the future of the religious education of our children and how can we unite our voices and stand up for God’s truth?

Read Full Lesson:  “Does God give us the Right?”

7 Responses to “Student Rights”

  1. Bro Rick Says:

    Post your comments and opinions here. Blessings Brother Rick

  2. Brother Brad Adams Says:

    I think the answer to Brother Rick’s first question is actually three-fold. The first answer is YES. Our rights as Christians are violated many times. The second answer is Satan is responsible for the attack on God’s people and upon God’s cause in general. This is nothing new. The dark ages are evidence of this. The word’s in the book of Revelation 12:17 testify to the anger of Satan; “and the dragon was wroth with the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”. Satan is ANGRY. He has been defeated and he knows it. We should not be amazed when we are opposed of the world and our “rights” are challenged. I liked what Brother Rick said when he stated that not only does God give us the RIGHT, but he COMMANDS us to educate our children and the world about the Lord Jesus. This brings us to the third part of the answer. The failure to to take a stand for our “rights” and religiously education of our children and the world falls upon US. We find it easy to enter into a discussion about God’s word in a forum such as this, but how often will we “speak up” and be heard for the Lord in an environment that is hostile towards the truth? I confess, I am guilty. It is EASY to talk about the Lord when you know people are going to be receptive, but it is another thing to “put yourself in harm’s way” so to speak. That requires us to trust our Lord, to KNOW the truth that we are proclaiming and be able to (by the help of the Lord) present it to people who are hostile to the truth in a manner that we not become outcasts.

  3. Nathan Chandler Says:

    I think the topic is very timely, or perhaps timeless. Before I answer, I must give full disclosure: I taught in public High Schools in Ohio and West Virginia in 2000 and 2001 before I entered the Marine Corps. I also have 4 children (12, 8, 4, 3) and we are a home schooling family.

    I think that we (Christians) have definitely had our rights violated everywhere in the public square – most notably in the public schools. In truth, we have in many ways abdicated those rights. As Brother Adams said, we are guilty of keepig our silence when we should speak-up. At least I know I am guilty of that.

    There is a battle that needs to be fought in the public square, and particularly in the public schools. However, let us not send our children forth to fight that battle! Now, I am not condemning anyone who sends their child to public school. I just want to say that I think this lesson introduces two separate issues that we need to keep straight in our minds.

    The first issue is that of the rights of Christians in public schools. We, as parents, adults, and taxpayers need to fight that fight. As Bro Rick pointed out, when there was an opportunity to rally in support of prayer and church involvement in public school, God’s People (Missionary Baptists) were absent. That is a shame on us. And I condemn myself most of all. Being a home school parent, I tend to ignore everything that goes on in the public schools around me – even though I support them with my taxes. That is the wrong attitude. I thank Bro Rick for pointing out many of the rights that we DO have but don’t often avail ourselves of – sadly I was unaware of many of them. But are we just going to give our kids bibles, tell them to have a prayer circle in the morning, say grace and lunch and witness to their friends in the afternoon and call it a day? It is good to encourage them to do these things, but fighting in the trenches is not their job. Now, I know that our saved children are soldiers for the Lord, but le’ts look at the biblical example. We know that Jesus was found in the temple when he was 12, but he was “sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them and asking them questions”. He was not disputing with them. If any 12 yo was ever equipped to be in the trenches for the Lord, it was Jesus! But he did not begin his public ministry nor publicly disputing with the powers that be until he was 30! I say again, that the fight should be fought by adults and not children.

    That brings us to the second issue – educating our children in the ways of the Lord. As Bro Adams said, it is a COMMAND. We do not have a choice. For my family, we do this through home schooling. Again, I am not saying that you cannot send your children to public school AND educate them properly in the ways of the Lord – but you are making it hard if you do! You have to undo 40 hrs a week of poison that is being shoveled into their brains. I was saved when I was 11 yo and in Church 3 times a week my whole childhood. But public school influenced me negatively. Now, I don’t blame that on anything but my own weakness. However, I would say that the majority of our children are more like I was than different than I was. It is human nature. Even as adults, don’t we come home from work with the stink of the world all over us? Can’t we feel the negative influence of the world on us every day? Have we not all cried out to the Lord at some point and just begged for him to lead us off into a cave somewhere away from the sinful influence of the world? Well, that is not going to happen because God has put us here to be a light unto the world. But can we not spare our children from the world yet a little while? Should we not?

  4. rick Says:

    Amen, Thanks bro Nathan. The point to this lesson was that the responsibility falls on the parents and it’s the home that has sacrificed to the world

  5. rick Says:

    From Bro Rick Frye
    Perhaps no better defense of democracy exists than Thomas Jefferson’s. It was his belief that majority rule is not perfect, but it is the best form of government. The only other alternatives are rule by the minority (which is worse) or rule by one person (which is even worse).

    The immoral factions of the country have the right to speak and have learned how to be heard, and how to build a case that is tried in the sympathetic arena of the media. The immoral minority has quietly enlisted the assistance of the legal community. Thus, the constant turmoil that exists in the public school system. The news media has learned that turmoil and controversy generates more advertising income, and it is promoted.

    I feel that the majority of the legal community are good people, and many are very religious in their own ways. However, there is the element of the industry that follows the root of evil, money. And in their quest for the almighty dollar they have laid mines in the paths of educators. Instead of providing our children with a good education, educators and school administrations must consider the path that prevents the possibility of litigation and negative media attention.

    As Christians, we must pray for guidance in educating our children. Psa_25:4 Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths.

    We must encourage and teach our members how to educate their children, starting at home, and teaching what is good and what is sinful. Psa_34:11 Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD.

    We must be steadfast in our teaching and set a good example. 2Ti_2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient…

    Not only do we have the right as American, as Christians it is our duty to provide our children with a religious and moral education. The immoral minority tries to get around this by advocating the protection of every individual’s right and clouding the issue. We must remain strong and steadfast on the correct path, not allowing the theft and or our rights by the immoral factions of this country. We must remember the teachings of the Bible, for satin is at the heart of any issue that stands between our children and God. We as Missionary Baptist must pull together and support each other in the proper education of our children

  6. Kathy Minor Says:

    Those of you who know me know that I’m not one to say much. I think this quote by Albert Einstein pretty well sums up my feelings about this lesson:

    “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch them without doing anything.”

    That quote really hit home with me, and I’m ashamed that I wasn’t aware of many of the rights that ARE constitutionally protected in the schools (as listed by Bro. Rick in the lesson). Sounds like I need to better educate myself on our constitutionally protected rights in order to be better able to exercise and defend those rights.

  7. Angie Says:

    FROM ANGIE
    Angie Says:

    February 8th, 2012 at 12:28 pm edit

    This is in response to last weeks topic, “seperation of church and state.” I feel like, we as Christian have lost a lot of our zeal. We must come together and fight for our rights. I ask myself this question, “What am I showing and encouraging my children about expressing themselves on a day by day basis? Am I encouraging my children to take there Bibles to school ? The answer is no. Am I encouraging them to spread the truth? Am I encouraging them to stop and pray before test, during conflicts, or while they are changing classes? We as Christians must train our children how to walk daily with the Loed. This includes the school desk, classrooms, hallways, parking lots,buses, sports complexes ect… Our Christian students can help keep Christianity in schools. We must work ,together as a church. to support one another in this challenging task. After reponding to this blog, I am thinking about getting both of my children a Bible to keep in their backpacks. It’s the small things that we do, that can make major changes. We must put God first on a daily basis. I am thankful to say, that Elizabeth is singing, “Jesus Take The Wheel” for the school talent show We chose this song, not knowing, what the school might say. I encouraged her to do this. I wanted her to take her talent God has given her and give Him honor and glory. I am so thankful she will be singing this song to hundreds of people. We must keep God in our daily life. Have a blessed day,

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